Monday, June 11, 2007

Is the Reagan Revolution Over?

The widespread consensus in mainstream media circles is that the modern conservative era ushered in with the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980 has effectively come to an end. A combination of factors and issues has arisen since Bush's re-election in 2004, the logic goes, all discrediting long-standing conservative dogma. Much as I'd like to stick a fork in the "Reagan Revolution" once and for all, color me a skeptic.

I remember similar rhetoric ensuing regarding the swan song of the Religious Right back in 1996 and 1998, when evangelicals failed to generate the political bounty needed to take down Bill Clinton in '96 or even trigger voter backlash regarding Monicagate in '98. The Religious Right, we were told, was losing influence with each passing day. The next three elections, particularly the 2004 "moral values" election, debunked that thesis, and actually showed us that the evangelical conservative movement was growing stronger and numerically larger.

George Bush has soured independent voters (and many Republicans) on the GOP, but he won't be on the ballot ever again. Similarly, the increasing prevalence of traditionally conservative business groups coming out in favor of anti-global warming measures and universal health care initiatives also seems unlikely to have staying power. Favoring generic legislation to help curb global warming and to establish universal health care is fairly easy. Settling on a specific policy is another thing. Even with a President and the majority of Congress favoring a "comprehensive immigration reform" policy, the legislation still seems poised to flounder until its death this year (and in this case, thank goodness) due to a lack of consensus on the eventual compromise legislation. Certainly the same would be the case when business leaders, currently joining hands with SEIU Union President Andy Stern on the need for universal health care, see the eventual universal health care plan that comes up for a vote. Business basically wants to pass on its health care costs onto taxpayers without an appreciable increase in tax burden. That's their horse in this race....and it's almost certain that any actual universal health care plan that comes forward will "raise taxes on business more than what business leader expected when they first endorsed the plan".

Ditto for global warming. Business leaders asking the Bush administration to "do something about climate change" are merely making a pre-emptive strike so that any potential legislation that does emerge will hold them as harmless as possible. It does not mean that energy companies are suddenly cool with the prospect of a conservation-promoting carbon tax.

Ultimately, no action will be taken on either universal health care or climate change in the foreseeable future because, like immigration, there will never emerge a large enough consensus to deliver the legislation through both Houses and the President's desk.

That unravels the argument that "the Reagan Revolution is dead" based on the issues, but the conflicting messages coming from voters in public opinion polls adds to my doubt. Conventional wisdom suggests that Democrats have as close to a sure thing as possible in the 2008 Presidential contest, but every shred of circumstantial evidence I'm seeing suggests that the Republicans have the advantage in the 2008 Presidential contest. Aside from the fact that the Democratic frontrunner is the almost certainly unelectable Hillary Clinton, the remainder of the top-tier and second-tier Democratic candidates just don't seem capable of scoring that all-important "cultural connection" with independent voters the way that the Republican candidates do.

If I were to pick the five candidates in the 2008 field who I believe would be the strongest nominees for their respective parties, the list would read as follows in descending order of electability: John McCain, Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, Fred Thompson, and Rudy Giuliani. Not a single Democrat in the top-five. While most of these GOP nominees have problems with the party's base, it's the Democratic candidates who will have problems with the national electorate. There are so many problems with a Hillary candidacy that I won't even bother starting the list; but Obama's inexperience (and let's be honest, his race) will ultimately lose him would-be voters; Edwards' pretty-boy image and, more specifically, his $400 haircut, strike me as comparable to the "Dean scream" in terms of viable electability; Biden couldn't get himself any coverage unless he lit himself on fire; and Richardson is losing credibility after a litany of unimpressive debate and talk show performances.

And even though I usually don't put much stock in these early polls, head-to-head candidate faceoffs indicate that despite a 13-point "generic advantage" for Democrats going into the 2008 Presidential election, individual Republican challengers are besting all of the top tier of Democrats running. As specific evidence of how much a candidate's "personal connection" with voters plays (and how little actual issues play), independent voters most inclined to oppose the war in Iraq are also most inclined to favor John McCain, primary cheerleader for a war that virtually nobody else is publicly defending, for President.

Another overarching theme of these Republicans running for President (and dispatching Democratic rivals) is that they all dole out an unending stream of Messiah-like adulation for Ronald Reagan at every possible opportunity. And this is the man whose "era" in American politics is allegedly over?

14 Comments:

Blogger James said...

The Religious Right and Reaganites are going to come back periodically. It is up to democrats to stop them.

Just two years ago, people were saying the Democratic Party was going to die. Yeah Right. It did not die. I am very displeased with our current leadership. We have do-nothing Democrats, and Republicans who are destroying EVERYTHING. This is ridiculous! Screw this sh*t.

I have felt either a fairly progressive Democrat or moderate Republican will win the 2008 Presidential Election. However, a 2008 Loss of the Democrats MIGHT be a POSITIVE, not NEGATIVE occurrences in the long run for the Democratic Party. Let me explain.

First, The next president will have a lot of issues on his back. The Iraq War, Immigration Reform (this mother f****** can't get sh*t done due to hyper-partisanship), the deficit and many other issues will inevitably make the next President somewhat unpopular eventually.

Second, I would hate to have an unpopular incumbent Democrat run in 2012, when Republicans only have 9 Senate Seats to defend, and the first House election after redistricting which will give TX and FL more seats.

Third, an unpopular Republican incumbent up in 2012 would neutralize the effect of the re-districting in 2012, and might help us hold on to the US Senate. And after 3 straight terms of Republicans, Americans will be ready for a Democratic President.

So, in other words, neither party is getting ready to die.

Now, let me put fears and hopes in the Democrats head about Redistricting (Off-Topic).

First, some Democrats fear congressional gains in the Sunbelt will hurt the Dems. PERHAPS, in the SHORT run we may lose the majority temporality, but in the long run it may HELP not hurt us. A lot of the Texas Gains will come in urban centers anyway, and it is inevitable with Shurb off the ballot, texas will be closer. The new NV and one of the two new AZ seats will likely be a "safe to leaning" Dem seat. Don't expect all 3 new Florida seats (if they even get three) to go Republican. Though I do believe Florida will one day be more Republican then Texas.

So Dems.. Do not Fear redistricting in 2010-12. And do not FEAR losing the 2008 presidential election.

11:13 PM  
Blogger Sara said...

As a Daughter of the American Revolution, I weep for my country. What happened to liking candidates with actual SUBSTANCE? Why is style so much more important than substance nowadays?

11:19 PM  
Blogger Mr. Phips said...

James, Dems should be in terrific shape for the 2012 redistricting. All they need to do is hold on to what they have now and gain full control in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Michigan.

Republicans are likely to pick up seats in Texas(3), but if they want to make all three safely Republican they will probably have to make Lampson's and Edwards' seats more Dem.

They are likely to pick up two in Florida, as in Texas, if they want to make the seats safely Republican, they will probably have to make Tim Mahoney's district more Democratic to do so.

They are also likely to get one each in Georgia and Utah.

That's a pickup of nine for Republicans.

Democrats will likely pick up the new Nevada seat which will be in increasingly Democratic Clark county. They also have a good chance of taking the Arizona seat.

If they can get full control in Ohio and Pennsylvania which is quite possible, they can make sure that the seats that those states lose are Republican. They can also do this in New York and Illinois.

Next in California, which gains a seat, they can make the new seat Dem leaning and also redistrict the currently Republican CA-03, CA-24, and CA-26 to make them Democratic leaning and very tough for Republicans to hold(especially in a bad year). That's a pickup of three in California.

In New York, Democrats can pick up two seats, one in Western New York and another on Staten Island by creating two more Dem leaning districts.

In Illinois, Dems can pick up two districts by extending two Republican held suburban Cook county districts closer to Chicago.

In Michigan, Democrats can undo the 2002 Republican gerrymander and pick up three seats.

In Virginia, Democrats can pick up three seats by spreading Democrats a little more evenly in the Fairfax county area and move around the black precincts in the Portsmouth area.

In Pennsylvania, Democrats can create a Dem leaning district near Pittsburgh by putting more of the city in a couple of districts.

Even in Alabama, if Democrats can keep control of the legislature, they can create another Dem district with a high black population that stretches from the Georgia border through the black belt all the way to Mississippi.

If Dems are able to hold their recent gains and gain full control in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Virginia, they can pick up 15 seats from redistricting. Subtract that from the Republicans nine seat gain and you have a net gain of six seats for Democrats from redistricting in 2012.

11:46 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

mr. phips, I wish I was optimistic as you regarding the 2012 reapportionment. We have to re-elect Governors in far-from-sure-thing states like Michigan, Illinois, and Ohio if we're gonna counter the GOP gains in Texas, Florida, and Georgia, among others. Also keep in mind we have a sweetheart arrangement right now in North Carolina that will only last if NC replaces Easly with another Democrat next year....a tall order in a Presidential election year where Hillary could be on the ballot.

james, I am surprised at the speed of the Dem resurgence. Sorry I have to cut this short for now as I have to get to work, but I'll add some more thoughts tonight.

4:45 AM  
Blogger Mr. Phips said...

Mark, we should have little trouble holding onto what we have now in those three states you mentioned. Two lean Dem and Ohio has a very popular Dem governor.

North Carolina should not be hard to hold onto. Republicans have a very lousy bench of candidates running.

12:05 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

To expand upon my earlier thoughts, existing Democratic leadership is unimpressive, but I can't really think of replacements who would be any more successful. Chuck Schumer is a much more skillful tactician than Harry Reid, but also comes across as a smarmy SOB (which he may admit to being himself). Pelosi isn't great either, but do you have any suggestions who would make a better Speaker? Steny Hoyer strikes me as Harry Reid's twin brother and Rahm Emanuel is best suited to behind-the-scenes work where his edgy personality isn't on full display. Finding a happy medium between milquetoast and asshole isn't as easy as one may think. How about Carl Levin? He seems like he might be a decent bet.

There's no way of predicting what the 2010 midterms will be like. A case can be made that if the Democrats win the Presidency and hold both Houses of the Congress in 2008, traditional midterm losses by the incumbent party would devastate Democratic prospects in 2010....the most important year of the next decade as 2010 winners will be the ones redrawing district lines for 2012-2020. The Democrats got killed in the 1998 and 2000 gubernatorial races....and consequently had to deal with impossibly gerrymanders in key states like Michigan and Ohio that continue to haunt the Democrats in those states today. There's no guarantee that Jennifer Granholm and Ted Strickland will be surefire winners three years from now, as voters may be inclined to blame the incumbent party on the economic problems in those states, which are not likely to go away any time soon.

Worrying about two election cycles into the future is pretty much a waste of energy since nobody knows what could possibly lie ahead in those election cycles, but I think it is worth being mindful that the potential exists for the Democratic Party being gerrymandered out of dozens of seats if our ducks aren't in a row following the 2010 midterms.

7:45 PM  
Blogger Hal Kimball said...

Thanks for your comments Mark! Not sure why Annandale is the liberal sanctuary in the sea of red out here...

Gotcha on the smoking stuff. I probably would not be as strong either way if my step dad had not been recently stricken with lung cancer. He's been a 3 pack a day smoker for 30 years, so the smoking issue hits home pretty hard here.

I think the other reason I wrote more about it than planned was also because of a staunch conservative in our area who pressed personal rights issues and righty talking points, yet obviously is staunchly pro-life, pro-war and anti-same sex marriage.

In some respects, it was a slug back at them.

Anyway...off topic on your blog as well...read some of your stuff and like what I see so far...I may link your site to mine.

Thanks, take care

9:53 PM  
Blogger Mr. Phips said...

Mark, if the Democrats win the White House in 2008, they will gain net seats in Congress. That's just how it usually works. The only way that they lose the House in 2008 is if the Republican nominee wins nationally by at least eight points, very unlikely. The Senate is a little more shaky, but it would be very hard to lose absent a Republican landslide in the Presidential race.

As for 2010, if the Democrats have the White House and Congress as well, I admit that they will be in a very tough position. Right now they can blame the fact that we have a Republican President for not being able to enact big changes. If there is a Democrat in the White House, they lose that excuse.

The best outcome in my eyes is for the Republicans to narrowly hold the White House, but for the Democrats to keep Congress. This would put them in a great position for further gains in 2010 and then draw the lines for 2012 so that control of the House will be locked up until at least 2022.

The only reason Democrats lost the House in 1994 is that they failed to draw the lines smartly in 1991. In many Southern states they were stupid enough to draw black majority districts that were like 75% black and sucked up Democratic votes from adjecent districts. They could have easily drawn 51% black districts that left enough Democratic votes to keep adjecent districts sufficiently Democratic. This killed Democrats in 1994 in states like North Carolina, Georgia, and California and contributed greatly to the loss of the majority in 1994. Don't think they will make this mistake again.

11:15 PM  
Blogger James said...

The fact that I am frightened to death of a Democratic Backlash in 2010 with Democrats controlling all government operations kind of makes me want a Republican to be elected in 2008..

Because I would have to have Republicans running Michigan, Pennslyvania, Illinois, Arizona, Nevada, Texas, California and Florida resdistricting (scary thoughts)!!!

anyway, like larry sabato says, the leeve always breaks..

and like I say, things always happen for a reason.. dont you agree

10:50 AM  
Blogger Mr. Phips said...

James, the way things are going now I don't think a Dem will win the White House in 2008 and will be lucky to hold onto Congress.

Of course, whatever Republican wins in 2008 is likely to be highly unpopular and this will probablt lead to a Democratic resurgance in 2008.

2:31 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

There certainly is something to be said for the Democratic Party's long-term prospects being better served by not winning everything in 2008, which would precipitate a "backlash" election in 2010 when the consequences for the coming decade would be the most damning. With that said, I can't endorse the idea that losing the White House is every the preferred option. The next President will get to install at least two Supreme Court justices. One of them will be liberal John Paul Stevens. We can't afford another Sam Alito clone to replace Stevens or everything future Democratic Congresses may accomplish would be rendered instantly moot.

Looking at the GOP candidates compared to the Democrats, however, the Republicans a much more independent-friendly slate, which leads me to give the GOP odds-on for another Presidential election victory.

4:51 PM  
Blogger Mr. Phips said...

Mark, if Democrats can at least hold Congress, I will be happy.

5:12 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

mr. phips, but whatever a Democratic Congress does will be negated for a generation if the Supreme Court is controlled by a right-wing cabal of Roberts, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and whatever right-winger John Paul Stevens is replaced with if the GOP wins the 2008 Presidential election. At some point, you have to win the Presidency or you have leadership in name only no matter what your margins in Congress.

6:04 PM  
Blogger Mr. Phips said...

Mark, Im just saying that if we are to lose something, I hope it is the White House. Congress, especially the House would be very hard to get back.

11:25 PM  

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